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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 20:11 Permalink

I still have copies of my old texts with Nebraska man in it. Same old story. Act like the scientific community didn't rally around Nebraska man as proof. It was inspected by experts from all over the world. And it was not the biological community which exposed the fraud. Notice that you no longer travel around hyping your finds after your many frauds have been proven. It is just one example of the fraud. Also this site has banned my post. Has to use another location. What are you Aafraid of?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:53 Permalink

No not one guy in1922. All of you. All of the untied frikin field of biology. Admit it. Also should we go into all the other so called proofs which have been proven wrong with time yet you still site as facts? You ran becUse you are a clown like the guys in 1922. Name an example and I will make you a fool. This is why you no longer take them out of the smithsonian.
Submitted by pseudonym (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:53 Permalink

pigs tooth? burying the lead a little, for every species on earth there are a million extinct species that came before, did the great creator in their wisdom manage to fuck up that badly or is evolution a mindless, random system that produces what ever it can and what ever works sticks? also yes nebraska man was taken out of textbooks (though I doubt it was featured in any) when scientific consensus determined it was a hoax. When was the bible last revised in the same way?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 20:11 Permalink

I still have copies of my old texts with Nebraska man in it. Same old story. Act like the scientific community didn't rally around Nebraska man as proof. It was inspected by experts from all over the world. And it was not the biological community which exposed the fraud. Notice that you no longer travel around hyping your finds after your many frauds have been proven. It is just one example of the fraud. Also this site has banned my post. Has to use another location. What are you Aafraid of?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:50 Permalink

No I am referring to the posts on DNA. You ran with no argument because you know you have no logical explanation. Also. Missing link. Still missing. Lol Hahahah
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:46 Permalink

Noticed you avoided the facts and did the old we gave each other pieces of paper proving i am right. Don't care if you work for NASA. Still wrong and the facts prove it with true open investigation using the scientific method and not crazy theories which you cling to like a junky afraid to be exposed to the truth of his addiction. And like all junkies. You want company so you feed your bs on everywhere and call facts fiction and theories as facts. Always ignoring what does not fit your little world of bs.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:35 Permalink

Your argument holds no water. The sun could be moving up and down as rotating. Grab a lamp and a ball. Rotate the lamp around the ball while moving it up and down from the north to he south. Same effect your now a monkey I guess.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:33 Permalink

Oh yeah, like the fact that someone in 1922 made an error proves all evolution wrong? Get over yourself.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:53 Permalink

No not one guy in1922. All of you. All of the untied frikin field of biology. Admit it. Also should we go into all the other so called proofs which have been proven wrong with time yet you still site as facts? You ran becUse you are a clown like the guys in 1922. Name an example and I will make you a fool. This is why you no longer take them out of the smithsonian.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:50 Permalink

No I am referring to the posts on DNA. You ran with no argument because you know you have no logical explanation. Also. Missing link. Still missing. Lol Hahahah
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:31 Permalink

Notice you only pick on weak arguments and a lid and slander the ones you KNOW prove your bs wrong. You have a weak mind. Probaly a school teacher.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:33 Permalink

Oh yeah, like the fact that someone in 1922 made an error proves all evolution wrong? Get over yourself.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:53 Permalink

No not one guy in1922. All of you. All of the untied frikin field of biology. Admit it. Also should we go into all the other so called proofs which have been proven wrong with time yet you still site as facts? You ran becUse you are a clown like the guys in 1922. Name an example and I will make you a fool. This is why you no longer take them out of the smithsonian.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:50 Permalink

No I am referring to the posts on DNA. You ran with no argument because you know you have no logical explanation. Also. Missing link. Still missing. Lol Hahahah
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:27 Permalink

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0831_050831_chimp_genes.html

But my mighty internet mindreading powers predict you will have an answer to that. It won't be a good answer and it'll probably involve insulting me and anyone else who dares disagree with you, but you'll hit that submit button just the same.

I love the smell of troll. It's just like unwashed crotch.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:26 Permalink

What's wrong Alfred. Upset Nebraska man was a pigs tooth after you guys put it in all your nonsense textbooks. Hahaha
Submitted by pseudonym (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:53 Permalink

pigs tooth? burying the lead a little, for every species on earth there are a million extinct species that came before, did the great creator in their wisdom manage to fuck up that badly or is evolution a mindless, random system that produces what ever it can and what ever works sticks? also yes nebraska man was taken out of textbooks (though I doubt it was featured in any) when scientific consensus determined it was a hoax. When was the bible last revised in the same way?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 20:11 Permalink

I still have copies of my old texts with Nebraska man in it. Same old story. Act like the scientific community didn't rally around Nebraska man as proof. It was inspected by experts from all over the world. And it was not the biological community which exposed the fraud. Notice that you no longer travel around hyping your finds after your many frauds have been proven. It is just one example of the fraud. Also this site has banned my post. Has to use another location. What are you Aafraid of?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:23 Permalink

Again. No actual argument. Just insults. I do study biology. Why you avoided my last comments and chose to slander. Proof of a weak argument. Lol
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:20 Permalink

You show your own foolishness by your arrogance. If we evolved. Why is the DNA record have no evidence of this. Why don't fish and mammals and apes and man have the same DNA sequences etc. DNA proves no link. No record of mans DNA in other species. Hello. You now have another missing link. Just this one is beyond reasoning. No genetic timeline present. I can trace human beans to genetic ancestors no problem yet never, not a single gene from another species or mans in lower species. You are blind to what is in your own microscopes. You have sacrificed the quest for knowledge to be accepted among your labotamized colleagues. Every strand of DNA should have a piece which would show a direct timeline from lower to higher DNA. Yet no DNA record to back up a word of your so called educated nonsense you feed each other and say how great your are for dumbing up all of society with your pschobabel.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:27 Permalink

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0831_050831_chimp_genes.html

But my mighty internet mindreading powers predict you will have an answer to that. It won't be a good answer and it'll probably involve insulting me and anyone else who dares disagree with you, but you'll hit that submit button just the same.

I love the smell of troll. It's just like unwashed crotch.

Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:07 Permalink

Boy, aren't you clever. Cleverer for sure than all those people who study evolutionary biology for years, for example, who haven't spent any time at all considering such questions as these.

Read up on the subject with humility and an open mind. You might actually learn something.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:46 Permalink

Noticed you avoided the facts and did the old we gave each other pieces of paper proving i am right. Don't care if you work for NASA. Still wrong and the facts prove it with true open investigation using the scientific method and not crazy theories which you cling to like a junky afraid to be exposed to the truth of his addiction. And like all junkies. You want company so you feed your bs on everywhere and call facts fiction and theories as facts. Always ignoring what does not fit your little world of bs.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:26 Permalink

What's wrong Alfred. Upset Nebraska man was a pigs tooth after you guys put it in all your nonsense textbooks. Hahaha
Submitted by pseudonym (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:53 Permalink

pigs tooth? burying the lead a little, for every species on earth there are a million extinct species that came before, did the great creator in their wisdom manage to fuck up that badly or is evolution a mindless, random system that produces what ever it can and what ever works sticks? also yes nebraska man was taken out of textbooks (though I doubt it was featured in any) when scientific consensus determined it was a hoax. When was the bible last revised in the same way?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 20:11 Permalink

I still have copies of my old texts with Nebraska man in it. Same old story. Act like the scientific community didn't rally around Nebraska man as proof. It was inspected by experts from all over the world. And it was not the biological community which exposed the fraud. Notice that you no longer travel around hyping your finds after your many frauds have been proven. It is just one example of the fraud. Also this site has banned my post. Has to use another location. What are you Aafraid of?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:23 Permalink

Again. No actual argument. Just insults. I do study biology. Why you avoided my last comments and chose to slander. Proof of a weak argument. Lol
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:01 Permalink

Passing on traits is far from going from a fish to a land animal or birds. How does a gill which breaths through water go to a lung which breaths air? Does half a lung work? Or half a central nervous SYSTEM. Define system. Ever ask yourself why they call it the missing link? It is MISSING. Your great proof the NEBRASKA MAN. A dawm pigs tooth. Hahaha. Missing link. Still missing. Always has. Always will be. DNA keeps a horse a horse. Only with man and intelligence can we mix DNA from different species. Try breeding a cat with a dog. Won't work. Takes an intelligence to manipulate the system. T
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:07 Permalink

Boy, aren't you clever. Cleverer for sure than all those people who study evolutionary biology for years, for example, who haven't spent any time at all considering such questions as these.

Read up on the subject with humility and an open mind. You might actually learn something.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:46 Permalink

Noticed you avoided the facts and did the old we gave each other pieces of paper proving i am right. Don't care if you work for NASA. Still wrong and the facts prove it with true open investigation using the scientific method and not crazy theories which you cling to like a junky afraid to be exposed to the truth of his addiction. And like all junkies. You want company so you feed your bs on everywhere and call facts fiction and theories as facts. Always ignoring what does not fit your little world of bs.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:26 Permalink

What's wrong Alfred. Upset Nebraska man was a pigs tooth after you guys put it in all your nonsense textbooks. Hahaha
Submitted by pseudonym (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:53 Permalink

pigs tooth? burying the lead a little, for every species on earth there are a million extinct species that came before, did the great creator in their wisdom manage to fuck up that badly or is evolution a mindless, random system that produces what ever it can and what ever works sticks? also yes nebraska man was taken out of textbooks (though I doubt it was featured in any) when scientific consensus determined it was a hoax. When was the bible last revised in the same way?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 20:11 Permalink

I still have copies of my old texts with Nebraska man in it. Same old story. Act like the scientific community didn't rally around Nebraska man as proof. It was inspected by experts from all over the world. And it was not the biological community which exposed the fraud. Notice that you no longer travel around hyping your finds after your many frauds have been proven. It is just one example of the fraud. Also this site has banned my post. Has to use another location. What are you Aafraid of?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:23 Permalink

Again. No actual argument. Just insults. I do study biology. Why you avoided my last comments and chose to slander. Proof of a weak argument. Lol
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 10 Aug 2011 - 19:32 Permalink

So guys I am not a Muslim or in that instance no faith at all, yet it is very convincing me to accept a geocentric flat earth where sun orbits over the earth and I do not feel seasonal changes as being near to the equator. The string theories, space-time fabrics and Hawking’s new theories and all are fine but one should make sense what he observes. Sri Lanka
Submitted by Sol (not verified) on 04 Aug 2011 - 19:51 Permalink

The bible doesn't have a word for evolution.. I don't place my faith in Evolution or the bible. But I sure as hell know the earth isn't some center. The sun is life it has turned this barren world into a livable place as much as water without sunlight and water this world would be a dead cold place. Center of the universe or not. I've been in enough plans traveled far enough lived long enough to know the changes. The sun has been something worshiped by man. Religion changes it gets adapted the bible is nothing more then a collection of stories and icons from Greek and roman lore changed to suit christian and Jewish morals. A harsh truth but if you want to be harsh to science that's my harshness to religion. Man places faith and gives strength to icons.
Submitted by Sol (not verified) on 04 Aug 2011 - 19:35 Permalink

I love Inertia :D it makes the world work literally and keeps us on the ground. <3 Without it we would all be dead flung into space like little bits of cosmic derby 'billions and billions' of years ago.
Submitted by Sol (not verified) on 04 Aug 2011 - 19:28 Permalink

The reason an object appears stationary because it is caught in the same speed and rotation as the earth, the earth may be moving fast but it's also huge the scale is so large that the turns are subtle and gentle like waves in the sea. It doesn't take much to get off the ground and escape only 11 KM/S. But as long as your inside the earth the pull holds you to it like the moon the moon rotates with the earth yet it's out in space slowly rotating but it barely moves a blimp is fully capable of compensating for small movements. Wind gust air speed and more, just because you don't think something is possible doesn't mean you should dismiss it it means you need to read into it rather then hold a closed off view. We all grow up as children but not all of us become adults.
Submitted by Bridget (not verified) on 29 Jun 2011 - 02:07 Permalink

Oh, that's an easy one. Most of the creationists I know believe in micro-evolution and claim that is how God wants it. They just disbelieve in MACRO-evolution - the idea that those small changes over time can lead to a change in species.
Submitted by pseudonym (not verified) on 31 May 2011 - 14:44 Permalink

In the unlikely event that you read this response I feel it is my responsibility to inform you that if you are talking on the subject of ancestors then you must be talking about the branch of biology called evolution, no r. Evolution does indeed state that humans ancestors many millions of years ago were a different species, but certainly not monkeys, otherwise monkeys would become extinct as we would have out competed them for resources or vice-versa, though if that were the case we would not be having this conversation. Evolution is the results of inherited characteristic, like vision, breathing oxygen or walking upright giving one species an advantage over another or even with random variation in each generation the ability to survive and reproduce more successfuly than it's parent or siblings and pass on their characters to the next generation. Characteristic are the result of special bio-chemical coding in the cells of all life including plants that we call DNA (Deoxyribonucleic acid), it is what gives us the hair color or eye color of our parent, the leaf color and bark thickness of a trees parent and the muscles mass or excellent eyesight of a wildcats parent. DNA is in males sperm and females eggs and varies wildly and further varies through mixing the two and in some circumstances varies even further through disease and environmental radiation. This variation can lead to new sets of characteristics that advantage a sub-species who could later develop even more new DNA sets called genes to the point that they are distinct from their original species and while they can breed with the transitory sub-group they can no longer breed with the original species. Hopefully this explains a little of how it is that monkeys and humans evolved at the same time from proto-monkeys and proto-humans, if you go further into the past you will find one species that is the ancestor of both humans and monkeys, but without a time machine it's too hard find the exact point. I'm not sure if anyone reading this will learn from it but it was an interesting exercise or me, but next time I might just cut and paste a biology text book.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 31 May 2011 - 04:27 Permalink

The fact that this discussion has been going on for over two years is unbelievable.. i'm going back to live my life now... i was trying to find out the difference in flight time west coast to east coast.. and vice versa.. now i'm late for my flight
Submitted by August (not verified) on 27 May 2011 - 01:17 Permalink

...this site IS called "Odd Books", is it not? I get your humor, Alfred ('scuse me, "humour") and I think this site is great. I wonder how all these other folks find this site and DON'T get it. Cheers!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 26 May 2011 - 08:20 Permalink

If you all believe in science and revolution then you would also believe that your ancestors were monkeys in the first place and then became humans (atleast this is what I have read) I donot believe in the fact that Earth revolves around the sun, it is the sun that revolves. END OF Discussion
Submitted by pseudonym (not verified) on 31 May 2011 - 14:44 Permalink

In the unlikely event that you read this response I feel it is my responsibility to inform you that if you are talking on the subject of ancestors then you must be talking about the branch of biology called evolution, no r. Evolution does indeed state that humans ancestors many millions of years ago were a different species, but certainly not monkeys, otherwise monkeys would become extinct as we would have out competed them for resources or vice-versa, though if that were the case we would not be having this conversation. Evolution is the results of inherited characteristic, like vision, breathing oxygen or walking upright giving one species an advantage over another or even with random variation in each generation the ability to survive and reproduce more successfuly than it's parent or siblings and pass on their characters to the next generation. Characteristic are the result of special bio-chemical coding in the cells of all life including plants that we call DNA (Deoxyribonucleic acid), it is what gives us the hair color or eye color of our parent, the leaf color and bark thickness of a trees parent and the muscles mass or excellent eyesight of a wildcats parent. DNA is in males sperm and females eggs and varies wildly and further varies through mixing the two and in some circumstances varies even further through disease and environmental radiation. This variation can lead to new sets of characteristics that advantage a sub-species who could later develop even more new DNA sets called genes to the point that they are distinct from their original species and while they can breed with the transitory sub-group they can no longer breed with the original species. Hopefully this explains a little of how it is that monkeys and humans evolved at the same time from proto-monkeys and proto-humans, if you go further into the past you will find one species that is the ancestor of both humans and monkeys, but without a time machine it's too hard find the exact point. I'm not sure if anyone reading this will learn from it but it was an interesting exercise or me, but next time I might just cut and paste a biology text book.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 21 Apr 2011 - 21:59 Permalink

salam you said "earth being flat and spread like a carpet and held by mountain tops amd wot not..! rubbish.." first its not rubbish its word from our creator Allah he said what you mansion when he was describing what will happen when the word end and nothing for sure mansion if our earth rotates just the sun rotate
Submitted by Shaamil (not verified) on 18 Mar 2011 - 18:47 Permalink

Is not He Who has made the earth as a fixed abode. (Qur'an 27:61) What is the Tafsir (explanation) of this verse. What does the Islamic scholars say about the meaning of this verse. Does' it really mean that the earth is not moving?
Submitted by Shaamil (not verified) on 18 Mar 2011 - 18:38 Permalink

The simplest proof that the earth rotates around the sun is the Foucault pendulum. Quoted from Wikipedia: The Foucault pendulum (play /fuːˈkoʊ/ foo-KOH), or Foucault's pendulum, named after the French physicist Léon Foucault, is a simple device conceived as an experiment to demonstrate the rotation of the Earth. While it had long been known that the Earth rotated, the introduction of the Foucault pendulum in 1851 was the first simple proof of the rotation in an easy-to-see experiment. Today, they are popular displays in science museums and universities. Link: Foucault pendulum
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 24 Feb 2011 - 15:13 Permalink

lol..i quite agree with you..the comment above refering to quran being the ultimate truth is quite hilarious.. the quran also mentiones funny imaginative stuffs like earth being flat and spread like a carpet and held by mountain tops amd wot not..! rubbish.... there are photographs of earth taken from space that clearly show the earth is round... anyways, the rotation and revolving is only proved by the pendulam expirement and the time lapse video recorded from space which cud well be due to other factors.... it is an assumption of science that the earth moves.. and this theory very well supports the day night, season changes we see on earth.... anyways, man cannot say for sure if our very own earth rotates and revolves then what makes him assume he will reach other universes and galaxies and find out the secrets of the universe creation!?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 21 Apr 2011 - 21:59 Permalink

salam you said "earth being flat and spread like a carpet and held by mountain tops amd wot not..! rubbish.." first its not rubbish its word from our creator Allah he said what you mansion when he was describing what will happen when the word end and nothing for sure mansion if our earth rotates just the sun rotate
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 23 Feb 2011 - 18:58 Permalink

What crap this is lmao people still living in the dark ages? or what? what crap do people teach these days The world isn't flat if facking round i think we know by now people falling off the sides geez -_-
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 15 Feb 2011 - 14:16 Permalink

First of all, the Earth doesn't exist. 55% of all scholars in the world know that, the other 45% just keeps pointing out questions that will drive our attention off the truth. Secondly, a great evidence of the flatness of the Middle-earth is that when we play Age of Mythology, you can see the entire world by dragging your mouse around, and when you reach the limits of the terrain, all you see is layers and layers of (plain) soil, and then, black forever. The movement of the screen stops, indicating that the earth really ends there. In Civilization this doesn't work, but Civilization was made by the 45% evil scholars from Muslim communist monarchies.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 10 Feb 2011 - 02:54 Permalink

By far the funniest threads I have ever read. The guy who said something about the carousel made me cry. Also, I noticed that all the people arguing that the earth is flat seem to be ignoring all the people who say "get in a plane and find out if it is". Anybody here who thinks the earth is flat should try to explain what would happen if I got in a plane and just kept flying in one direction, I would love to hear your viewpoint. Thanks guys.
Submitted by David Horton (not verified) on 27 Jan 2011 - 11:48 Permalink

On second thoughts ..... perhaps I'll keep myself nice. The ones I get when I blog at the ABC (http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/david-horton-28320.html) don't come across to the Watermelon Blog thank goodness - I like to keep it civilised.
Submitted by David Horton (not verified) on 27 Jan 2011 - 07:25 Permalink

Alfred, thank you for bringing Mr Westfield to the attention of the world, and in doing so attracting, by some kind of internet magnetism (I'm surprised magnets didn't get a mention somewhere here!), some of the strangest commentators and comments, surely, that have ever appeared in response to any post on any blog anywhere. And I read a lot of climate change blogs where nutters appear very fast; and write a lot of posts about all sorts of things, ditto. Perhaps you could hire these people out to other blogs in need of a bit of madness in the midst of serious science. Cheers.
Submitted by pseudonym (not verified) on 31 Dec 2010 - 02:56 Permalink

I didn't understand your first point but I am Australian so I will reply to the question. It spins in different directions depending on the shape of the toilet bowl, the Coriolis effect is too small to influence something at that scale, you need to look at cyclones or whirlpools to see it in action. You should be researching gravity if you want to understand the shape or movement of the earth.
Submitted by timgarrow (not verified) on 30 Dec 2010 - 05:48 Permalink

"as a general rule," it should take longer flying west in the Northern Hemisphere than flying the same route east, and just the opposite would be true in the Southern Hemisphere. Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_flying_east_take_longer_than_flying_west#ixzz19ZEE6oJJ