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Submitted by kerry (not verified) on 04 Jun 2010 - 04:50 Permalink

good stuff, love the fact that muslims, believe as christians, that there is a judgment for all, maybe then will all great mysteries be solved. peace to you and your family.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 03 Jun 2010 - 07:01 Permalink

I would just like to point out, all your 'reasons' that you think are refuting the earth spinning, are wrong, and right, at the same time. Everything in this universe is relative. Go and look it up. If a bird is flying with or against the earths directional spin, it makes no difference, as we cannot perceive a difference. If we were looking from a 3rd perspective, out in space, then yes, one bird would not move, and one would be going twice as fast as the original flight speed. This may seem tricky to get your head around, but it really isn't. And basically refutes nearly everything said about earth rotation.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 29 Apr 2010 - 10:13 Permalink

Recent commenters: if you leave comments attacking or questioning me personally, from now on I shall be deleting them. Not because I care, but because it's boring, and other visitors to this site don't give a stuff what you think of me or my views.

Bear in mind that all comments are moderated, so you'll be wasting your energies in raising a protest. Round here, it's an absolute dictatorship.

Submitted by August (not verified) on 27 May 2011 - 01:17 Permalink

...this site IS called "Odd Books", is it not? I get your humor, Alfred ('scuse me, "humour") and I think this site is great. I wonder how all these other folks find this site and DON'T get it. Cheers!
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 28 Apr 2010 - 23:55 Permalink

Do I really have to explain my sense of humour, or justify it to you? There's plenty of sites around where the blatherings of blithering idiots are taken seriously: this just isn't one of them.

This is MY site and I write stuff on it that reflects my own opinions and tastes. If you don't like it, you don't have to read it. You can set up your own web site and wibble on in your own sweet way, but if you come whinging and complaining round here, you'll get short shrift.

Submitted by Candle (not verified) on 28 Apr 2010 - 17:59 Permalink

Ok that is fair play i will have to find this book elsewhere then. Just it's a rare book i need to buy it for a flat earther i know. Just a question about the website. I think this is a good website to document rare books, just i don't quite understand about it. In every review of the books you have done (the owner of this site) you just laugh at the people who wrote them and call them 'quacks' or 'mad men'. Was this website just made to laugh at people? That is not very nice. Usually people who collect these rare books actually follow the teachings of the books yet you seem to be laughing at every book on this site. Why do you collect these books Alfred if you think the people who wrote them are 'idiots'? Do you just keep the books for money value? Let's take this example of the book Does the Earth Rotate? NO! You obviously believe the earth is a globe so what is the point in buying a book you disagree with? Just to laugh at it? Confusing!!!!! Please explain. I am interested to know why you made this website. As i said it's a great little site with some rarities on, it's just a shame your reviews are so negative.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 29 Apr 2010 - 10:13 Permalink

Recent commenters: if you leave comments attacking or questioning me personally, from now on I shall be deleting them. Not because I care, but because it's boring, and other visitors to this site don't give a stuff what you think of me or my views.

Bear in mind that all comments are moderated, so you'll be wasting your energies in raising a protest. Round here, it's an absolute dictatorship.

Submitted by August (not verified) on 27 May 2011 - 01:17 Permalink

...this site IS called "Odd Books", is it not? I get your humor, Alfred ('scuse me, "humour") and I think this site is great. I wonder how all these other folks find this site and DON'T get it. Cheers!
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 28 Apr 2010 - 23:55 Permalink

Do I really have to explain my sense of humour, or justify it to you? There's plenty of sites around where the blatherings of blithering idiots are taken seriously: this just isn't one of them.

This is MY site and I write stuff on it that reflects my own opinions and tastes. If you don't like it, you don't have to read it. You can set up your own web site and wibble on in your own sweet way, but if you come whinging and complaining round here, you'll get short shrift.

Submitted by jamal (not verified) on 25 Apr 2010 - 16:30 Permalink

hello everyone, i have read all d comments on dis topic n as far as i understand it is absolutely rubbish 2 say dat earth is flat bcoz QURAN clearly mentions abt d shape of d earth n it is oval in shape looking like an ostrich egg. As far as rotation of earth is concerned i can say in simple words dat "earth does not rotate abt its own axis".And moreover we should not get ourselves into religious argument rather we should try 2 solve our diffrences by talking to each other in a polite and respectful manner.
Submitted by Robert (not verified) on 08 Mar 2010 - 01:47 Permalink

Normally I don’t care about grammar and orthography, but ‘the law of phisyic’ somehow made me laugh. Strange. The flat-earth-thing is also quite funny, considering that there had been at least 35 circumnavigations of the earth before the book was written… And as for the earth that isn’t rotating: The idea of everything having to stop its movement at the moment of leaving the earths surface thus making the landing of swallows on a rotating planet awfully dangerous is obviously bloody stupid, but you could define a set of rules describing all the movements of every star and planet without any rotation of the earth. You’d have to invent strange forces acting upon our beloved planet and the rest, the faraway objects in space would have to move with an extraordinarily high speed, compared to which the speed of light would be downright sluggish, the orbits would be meandering in quite confusing ways, but it would work. Of course it would be much easier to calculate the movements of a rotating earth, orbiting around a sun, that itself is orbiting around some distant point in the middle of our galaxy and then to calculate what the universe would look like, seen from the surface of the earth, which might be considered as a hint that the idea of a rotating earth is not entirely stupid, but as there is no point which is marked by the gods or whatever as ‘without any doubt not moving’, you can define your bedroom as the centre of the universe, you just can’t ask anyone to calculate the next solar eclipse using that frame of reference. Cheers, Rob.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 05 Mar 2010 - 01:59 Permalink

All this theory was created by men and nothing ruled better than allah wisdom the darwinism theory was later found to be outdated and it was only the discovery of the dna that defy the theory the dna of monkey was not the same humankind. The foundation of science whether it is from the christian muslim or jews was from the wisdom of allah.So what we want to know is the truth so yesterday at night time i stupidly stares at the stars above my house it showing the same position the noth star or the star of kiblat for muslim.Now i started to belive and I shall dwelve further to study to get the right answer. What is the law of phisyic considering that the earth is the only inhibitat planets on the galaxy. Only allah knew the truth but god gave mankind brain to think so it is the intelligent of human brain that will find the truth.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 04 Mar 2010 - 11:11 Permalink

I am muslim and to my understanding is the earth is round was already informed 1400 years ago in Surah Yassin at that time we believe that the world was flat. i read further there is no mention for the earth to rotate and evolving around the sun floating in its course. Just see the re entry of rockets cosmonouts to the earth it fall on the same place or maybe a little distance out. Why is that the roxckets heats doe not fall out furtherst. Sometimes mens theory are out and we need to understand further.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 03 Mar 2010 - 22:49 Permalink

Ha ha. Hilarious. So predicting eclipses doesn't involve calculations which take the rotation of the Earth into account? Astonishing!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:31 Permalink

Notice you only pick on weak arguments and a lid and slander the ones you KNOW prove your bs wrong. You have a weak mind. Probaly a school teacher.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:33 Permalink

Oh yeah, like the fact that someone in 1922 made an error proves all evolution wrong? Get over yourself.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:53 Permalink

No not one guy in1922. All of you. All of the untied frikin field of biology. Admit it. Also should we go into all the other so called proofs which have been proven wrong with time yet you still site as facts? You ran becUse you are a clown like the guys in 1922. Name an example and I will make you a fool. This is why you no longer take them out of the smithsonian.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:50 Permalink

No I am referring to the posts on DNA. You ran with no argument because you know you have no logical explanation. Also. Missing link. Still missing. Lol Hahahah
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 03 Mar 2010 - 16:49 Permalink

If the earth turns the sextant never worked. If the earth is tilted on its axis at 27% then throw your compass away it won't work. If the earth spins then the great leader Yahshua Ben Nun ( Joshua ) was wrong in Joshua 10:12-14. How could the great prophet Isayah not be knocked on his fanny when the sun dial returned 10% in Isaiah 38:8? If the earth spins at 1036 MPH? This means that the earth stopped, reversed its spin,... then started up again with out anything moving out of its place. Get real people you have inherited nothing but lies just as the Hebrew prophet Yeremyah ( Jeremiah ) said in 16:19. Was the prophet Habakkuk right in Chapter 3: 11. No the earth is not flat The Hebrew Scriptures state it is a circle. If the earth spins there is no way in hell that you could predict and eclipse be it solar or lunar, yet we are told each time an eclipse will take and how long it will last. Have a great day.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 03 Mar 2010 - 22:49 Permalink

Ha ha. Hilarious. So predicting eclipses doesn't involve calculations which take the rotation of the Earth into account? Astonishing!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:31 Permalink

Notice you only pick on weak arguments and a lid and slander the ones you KNOW prove your bs wrong. You have a weak mind. Probaly a school teacher.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:33 Permalink

Oh yeah, like the fact that someone in 1922 made an error proves all evolution wrong? Get over yourself.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:53 Permalink

No not one guy in1922. All of you. All of the untied frikin field of biology. Admit it. Also should we go into all the other so called proofs which have been proven wrong with time yet you still site as facts? You ran becUse you are a clown like the guys in 1922. Name an example and I will make you a fool. This is why you no longer take them out of the smithsonian.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:50 Permalink

No I am referring to the posts on DNA. You ran with no argument because you know you have no logical explanation. Also. Missing link. Still missing. Lol Hahahah
Submitted by joy (not verified) on 18 Feb 2010 - 12:14 Permalink

YOU MAY B IN THE MEDICAL FIELD BUT YOU CERTAINLY DIDNT LEARN THE HOW TO RESPECT SOMEONES OPINION N BELIEFS. IM A NON MUSLIM BUT I FEEL KNOW THE OTHER PERSON SAID ABOUT QURAN IS TRUE, THAT DOESNT MAKE HER WRONG AND YOUR COMMENT "(at least in America, not so much in many Muslim taught countries), " I FEEL YOU SHOULD ALSO B TAUGHT SOME MANNERS, RESPECT AND CULTURE. JOY
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 27 Jan 2010 - 14:22 Permalink

I wouldn't pretend to know much about Islam, but not all muslims agree with you. http://www.islamawareness.net/Science/muslims_contributions.html

The Muslims, however, did not suffer from the error of regarding as sacred that which was non-sacred. They were in a position to reflect upon matters of scientific interest with open minds, and in a purely academic way. When they found that the heliocentric theory was more rational, they accepted it without any hesitation.

 

Submitted by hamy (not verified) on 26 Jan 2010 - 21:39 Permalink

i m a muslim and in our holy book QURAN it is written allready that earth doesnt moves. moon and sun and other planets moves around earth and middle of the earth there is KAHAN E KABA of muslims. there r many things written in our QURAN and all is true, no need to proof. everything u want to know just get it from QURAN.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 27 Jan 2010 - 14:22 Permalink

I wouldn't pretend to know much about Islam, but not all muslims agree with you. http://www.islamawareness.net/Science/muslims_contributions.html

The Muslims, however, did not suffer from the error of regarding as sacred that which was non-sacred. They were in a position to reflect upon matters of scientific interest with open minds, and in a purely academic way. When they found that the heliocentric theory was more rational, they accepted it without any hesitation.

 

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 19 Jan 2010 - 02:42 Permalink

Here is one this was never brought up. Since ever other religion has posted. 6) In possibly the oldest book of the Bible, Job asserted that God hung the earth on nothing (Job 26:7). The first scientist having this understanding would appear to be Copernicus around 1500. 7) The rotation of the earth was likely revealed in Job 38:12, where God asks of Job: Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place; that it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. God asks Job if he has ever dictated the time of the morning or the location of the sunrise (dayspring). As soon as the sun is risen, its light will take hold of the ends of the earth in the sense that it touches all of the landscape, and the wicked are shaken out of it (the earth) in the sense that thieves, drunkards, adulterers, and others who practice their sins in darkness are forced to desist from these activities as they retreat from the light. Also, the beauties of the earth are revealed by the light, and its coloration is made to appear as that of a beautiful garment. Finally, the text asserts that God's command of the morning derives from His control of the earth, which is turned as clay to the seal. Hence, the suggestion is that God regulates the morning by rotating the earth as a potter rotates the clay. Yet ancient wisdom would have asserted that God regulated the morning by control of the Sun, and indeed, this is the perception of any uninformed mind.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 17 Jan 2010 - 04:06 Permalink

If the Earth were stationary, and the sun rotated around it, the sun must have aliens forcing it to constantly shift it's path. Haven't you people ever considered that no matter where on Earth you are, the sun path pattern shifts from one direction (North) to the opposite direction (South) every six months? The ONLY way this can happen is if the Earth is rotating at an angle while circling the sun. A drunk monkey could figure that out.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:35 Permalink

Your argument holds no water. The sun could be moving up and down as rotating. Grab a lamp and a ball. Rotate the lamp around the ball while moving it up and down from the north to he south. Same effect your now a monkey I guess.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 12 Dec 2009 - 08:49 Permalink

don't opress religious peoples, they have people in powerful places... also on the topic of the book, that cover is a really crappy color.
Submitted by Klive (not verified) on 12 Dec 2009 - 08:46 Permalink

Does it matter? it wont delay lunch, and the Russians are still producing Smirnoff. theres nothing to worry about, as neither argument will affect me.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 11 Nov 2009 - 12:21 Permalink

No, the earth rotation every day so bad book. Or, the earth orbit sun every year so bad book. Indeed the earth not flat so bad book. And indupitably the author idiot so very bad book.

What language this we speak by the way?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 10 Nov 2009 - 22:30 Permalink

the earth rotation every year so bad book
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 11 Nov 2009 - 12:21 Permalink

No, the earth rotation every day so bad book. Or, the earth orbit sun every year so bad book. Indeed the earth not flat so bad book. And indupitably the author idiot so very bad book.

What language this we speak by the way?

Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 27 Oct 2009 - 14:24 Permalink

Please note: any further comments left here that are off-topic and nothing to do with this book will be deleted. That includes any that are purely about Islam, whether for or against.

Submitted by Ahmed Shehata (not verified) on 25 Oct 2009 - 22:43 Permalink

Holy Quran is the talking of God to all mankind. It is a valuable book to guide all humankind to rightness and NOT scientific book. No one can claim that he can understand the exact meaning of some verses of Quran. Here, it is the secret, there is a new understanding with the time and according to the level of each one.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 03 Oct 2009 - 18:52 Permalink

Don't poke them, Francois. I'm trying to collect a full set of religions in the idiot comments category. The first Zoroastrian wins a prize!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 12 Dec 2009 - 08:49 Permalink

don't opress religious peoples, they have people in powerful places... also on the topic of the book, that cover is a really crappy color.
Submitted by FrancoisTremblay (not verified) on 03 Oct 2009 - 09:19 Permalink

What the...? Why is there an islamist-on-islamist flame war going on in this site? Aren't there message boards you guys can go to for this sort of thing?
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 03 Oct 2009 - 18:52 Permalink

Don't poke them, Francois. I'm trying to collect a full set of religions in the idiot comments category. The first Zoroastrian wins a prize!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 12 Dec 2009 - 08:49 Permalink

don't opress religious peoples, they have people in powerful places... also on the topic of the book, that cover is a really crappy color.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 02 Oct 2009 - 00:33 Permalink

Assalam alaikum to all Muslims, If you are a True Muslim dont Belive any stupid informations which againts the quran. The words of quran from only Allah not by any humans. One days all of us we need to give answers in front of allah, Belive in Judjement day on that day every soul came to know the true. This world is just an a Exam hall, we all came here for the practical test one day we must know of result of this examination. Excuse my english please.
Submitted by Lord Kefka (not verified) on 27 Sep 2010 - 02:42 Permalink

Thats a pretty glum view of the world isn't it? An Exam hall? Well exams can be fun. I used to go to college finals, write out my papers and then force down alot of whiskey so that I could look over everything in a second frame of mine. I graduated with honors.
Submitted by kerry (not verified) on 04 Jun 2010 - 04:50 Permalink

good stuff, love the fact that muslims, believe as christians, that there is a judgment for all, maybe then will all great mysteries be solved. peace to you and your family.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 25 Sep 2009 - 13:24 Permalink

The sun does rotate around its own axis, but I assume that's not what you mean. The author of this book thought the Earth was flat, so I don't think he was worried about the general consensus of opinion.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 25 Sep 2009 - 01:42 Permalink

every one knows that the Earth rotates not the freakin Sun
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 25 Sep 2009 - 13:24 Permalink

The sun does rotate around its own axis, but I assume that's not what you mean. The author of this book thought the Earth was flat, so I don't think he was worried about the general consensus of opinion.

Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 06 Sep 2009 - 22:54 Permalink

To be pedantic for a moment, actually according to Einstein they aren't the same thing. Rotating frames of reference can't be substituted one for one another. The rest of the universe, and its gravitational effect, means the two things are distinguishable. Without this the twins paradox would not work, for one.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 28 Nov 2010 - 03:43 Permalink

i dont like this guy a man who invented the nuclear bomb along with his mates now look at the world today after 1000s of tests they say its global warming more like ripping holes... in the ozone layer... oops sorry we got carried away wheres all the fallout gone ...ask the airline companys like Qantas even their planes are feeling the effects ....soon all planes maybe will drop like flys thats the reason they banned atmospheric testing
Submitted by Robert Seddon (not verified) on 06 Sep 2009 - 22:47 Permalink

Well, given relative space the Earth orbiting the Sun and the Sun orbiting the Earth are the same thing... but the model does look a lot neater if you put the Sun in the middle and the planets on elliptical orbits around it.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 06 Sep 2009 - 22:54 Permalink

To be pedantic for a moment, actually according to Einstein they aren't the same thing. Rotating frames of reference can't be substituted one for one another. The rest of the universe, and its gravitational effect, means the two things are distinguishable. Without this the twins paradox would not work, for one.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 28 Nov 2010 - 03:43 Permalink

i dont like this guy a man who invented the nuclear bomb along with his mates now look at the world today after 1000s of tests they say its global warming more like ripping holes... in the ozone layer... oops sorry we got carried away wheres all the fallout gone ...ask the airline companys like Qantas even their planes are feeling the effects ....soon all planes maybe will drop like flys thats the reason they banned atmospheric testing
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 04 Sep 2009 - 15:54 Permalink

Oh, so that's why the Copernican model caught on: CNN endorsed it. How insightful.

Submitted by Robert Seddon (not verified) on 06 Sep 2009 - 22:47 Permalink

Well, given relative space the Earth orbiting the Sun and the Sun orbiting the Earth are the same thing... but the model does look a lot neater if you put the Sun in the middle and the planets on elliptical orbits around it.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 06 Sep 2009 - 22:54 Permalink

To be pedantic for a moment, actually according to Einstein they aren't the same thing. Rotating frames of reference can't be substituted one for one another. The rest of the universe, and its gravitational effect, means the two things are distinguishable. Without this the twins paradox would not work, for one.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 28 Nov 2010 - 03:43 Permalink

i dont like this guy a man who invented the nuclear bomb along with his mates now look at the world today after 1000s of tests they say its global warming more like ripping holes... in the ozone layer... oops sorry we got carried away wheres all the fallout gone ...ask the airline companys like Qantas even their planes are feeling the effects ....soon all planes maybe will drop like flys thats the reason they banned atmospheric testing
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 04 Sep 2009 - 04:33 Permalink

The Earth is not rotating around the sun, the sun is rotating around the earth, forget the Quran the Bible which is the 4000 years old says the same thing, they borrowed it. Give your heads a shake, why would so called science teach this well maybe to further their agenda of evolution, without it everything is rotating from the earth. But if cnn say its true, then its true right sheeple. oh by the way evolution is not science when has anything that darwin said been observable which is the meaning of science. evolution is a theory, and a dumbass uneducated one at that, you know what I'm saying is true...even the Bible calls evolutionist FOOLS are you a fool? Ps 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart their is not God..so you must be a fool, dont be embarrassed about it, I mean when your mom or dad or child or friend die dont be a closet monkey climb out and say I will not sit in a service that mentions God. Dont bring your hairy ass into a church when you get married, dont visit one stay in your tree, you know what I mean..oh maybe you dont your a monkey arn't you.
Submitted by Sol (not verified) on 04 Aug 2011 - 19:51 Permalink

The bible doesn't have a word for evolution.. I don't place my faith in Evolution or the bible. But I sure as hell know the earth isn't some center. The sun is life it has turned this barren world into a livable place as much as water without sunlight and water this world would be a dead cold place. Center of the universe or not. I've been in enough plans traveled far enough lived long enough to know the changes. The sun has been something worshiped by man. Religion changes it gets adapted the bible is nothing more then a collection of stories and icons from Greek and roman lore changed to suit christian and Jewish morals. A harsh truth but if you want to be harsh to science that's my harshness to religion. Man places faith and gives strength to icons.
Submitted by Lord Kefka (not verified) on 27 Sep 2010 - 02:47 Permalink

I am very curious about how anti-evolutionists explain breeding. It is something observable and I also suspect that most fundamentalists have some idea fathers pass on their traits to their children. I would like to find the official fundamentalist explanation for these things. Also it is polite to call us Apes, monkeys is offensive.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:01 Permalink

Passing on traits is far from going from a fish to a land animal or birds. How does a gill which breaths through water go to a lung which breaths air? Does half a lung work? Or half a central nervous SYSTEM. Define system. Ever ask yourself why they call it the missing link? It is MISSING. Your great proof the NEBRASKA MAN. A dawm pigs tooth. Hahaha. Missing link. Still missing. Always has. Always will be. DNA keeps a horse a horse. Only with man and intelligence can we mix DNA from different species. Try breeding a cat with a dog. Won't work. Takes an intelligence to manipulate the system. T
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:07 Permalink

Boy, aren't you clever. Cleverer for sure than all those people who study evolutionary biology for years, for example, who haven't spent any time at all considering such questions as these.

Read up on the subject with humility and an open mind. You might actually learn something.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:46 Permalink

Noticed you avoided the facts and did the old we gave each other pieces of paper proving i am right. Don't care if you work for NASA. Still wrong and the facts prove it with true open investigation using the scientific method and not crazy theories which you cling to like a junky afraid to be exposed to the truth of his addiction. And like all junkies. You want company so you feed your bs on everywhere and call facts fiction and theories as facts. Always ignoring what does not fit your little world of bs.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:26 Permalink

What's wrong Alfred. Upset Nebraska man was a pigs tooth after you guys put it in all your nonsense textbooks. Hahaha
Submitted by pseudonym (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:53 Permalink

pigs tooth? burying the lead a little, for every species on earth there are a million extinct species that came before, did the great creator in their wisdom manage to fuck up that badly or is evolution a mindless, random system that produces what ever it can and what ever works sticks? also yes nebraska man was taken out of textbooks (though I doubt it was featured in any) when scientific consensus determined it was a hoax. When was the bible last revised in the same way?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 20:11 Permalink

I still have copies of my old texts with Nebraska man in it. Same old story. Act like the scientific community didn't rally around Nebraska man as proof. It was inspected by experts from all over the world. And it was not the biological community which exposed the fraud. Notice that you no longer travel around hyping your finds after your many frauds have been proven. It is just one example of the fraud. Also this site has banned my post. Has to use another location. What are you Aafraid of?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:23 Permalink

Again. No actual argument. Just insults. I do study biology. Why you avoided my last comments and chose to slander. Proof of a weak argument. Lol
Submitted by Bridget (not verified) on 29 Jun 2011 - 02:07 Permalink

Oh, that's an easy one. Most of the creationists I know believe in micro-evolution and claim that is how God wants it. They just disbelieve in MACRO-evolution - the idea that those small changes over time can lead to a change in species.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 04 Sep 2009 - 15:54 Permalink

Oh, so that's why the Copernican model caught on: CNN endorsed it. How insightful.

Submitted by Robert Seddon (not verified) on 06 Sep 2009 - 22:47 Permalink

Well, given relative space the Earth orbiting the Sun and the Sun orbiting the Earth are the same thing... but the model does look a lot neater if you put the Sun in the middle and the planets on elliptical orbits around it.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 06 Sep 2009 - 22:54 Permalink

To be pedantic for a moment, actually according to Einstein they aren't the same thing. Rotating frames of reference can't be substituted one for one another. The rest of the universe, and its gravitational effect, means the two things are distinguishable. Without this the twins paradox would not work, for one.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 28 Nov 2010 - 03:43 Permalink

i dont like this guy a man who invented the nuclear bomb along with his mates now look at the world today after 1000s of tests they say its global warming more like ripping holes... in the ozone layer... oops sorry we got carried away wheres all the fallout gone ...ask the airline companys like Qantas even their planes are feeling the effects ....soon all planes maybe will drop like flys thats the reason they banned atmospheric testing
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 21 Aug 2009 - 09:52 Permalink

Meanwhile, they claim there is an intellectual elite out there out to get them. That's not the elite trying to conspire against you.. it's 82% (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_47/b3960108.htm) of the american population.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Jul 2009 - 06:10 Permalink

this is one of the reason why i keep searching for the best answer i believe in science
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 28 Jul 2009 - 13:07 Permalink

to all muslims who thinks sun rotates around earth, I'm a muslim to and there is nothing in Quran that proves your theory, don't be stupid and linking Quran to your stupid ideas. the Quran shouldn't be linked to any scientific invention, dicovery for one simple reason : if you do believe in Quran you will know that it is fixed , it doesn't change, its the same as it was 1400 years ago and you cannot link something fixed to something that changes (science). please be intellegient enough and don't link Quran to this crab. excuse my english. thanks
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 20 Jul 2009 - 23:31 Permalink

Just to make it clear for everyone, the comment made by the muslim is not shared by muslims in the world. he is probably a part of a muslim organization or subculture or whatever that translates the koran however they wish. Anyway, im a muslim and i believe the earth rotates, and theres no contradiction to that in the koran
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 16 Jul 2009 - 20:08 Permalink

1. You forgot to take in account the 1st Newton's laws of motion...(mostly inertia)
Last week I took a high speed train (150 mph) and I had to jump a couple of times while trying to get my get my backpack. So if this scholar was right my half a second jumps could have made me fly 38 yardas across the wagon! But I just jumped and landed more or less in the same place, having unstuck the backpack strap with a tug and got my magazine from it.
Submitted by Sol (not verified) on 04 Aug 2011 - 19:35 Permalink

I love Inertia :D it makes the world work literally and keeps us on the ground. <3 Without it we would all be dead flung into space like little bits of cosmic derby 'billions and billions' of years ago.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 14 Jul 2009 - 05:35 Permalink

Can I subscribe to the comments? I don't want to miss any! I am trying to decipher the battle over whether it was a muslim or a british dude who discovered that the Sun rotates around the Earth.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 14 Jul 2009 - 04:53 Permalink

I love these comments. So wait a minute, I throw a stone up and it lands in the same place, yes you are right actually, everything they have taught me in school is wrong and you are right. What a great argument. You know, I threw up a stone on an airplane once (it was rotating the earth like the earth rotates around the sun) and sure enough it landed in my hand. But I knew the plane was not moving and it was all an elaborate illusion to make me think the plane was really moving. Do you people stop and think about what you are saying, or just say it? Where do you think the laws of gravity etc. come from?
Submitted by Thelonious (not verified) on 14 Jul 2009 - 01:50 Permalink

Surely the train cannot be moving for otherwise when the porter spilled my drink, it should have drenched the t-shirt of the nubile lass behind me rather than my pantaloons.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 21 Jun 2009 - 20:50 Permalink

to all the uneducated people that believe they are right, that the earth does not rotate do you not see that anything is relative to your frame of reference. what that means is that if you are at the ball game looking at the blimp hovering above you, to you from your frame of reference the blimp is stationary. to an observer in space the blimp would be moving at the speed the earth is turning. two people looking at the same object from a different frame of reference see two different things. if the blimp were to fly in the same direction as the earth rotates at a relative 10 mph, the observer on earth sees the blimp move at 10mph. the observer in space observes the blimp move at the speed the earth is rotating plus 10mph. the blimp moves at 10mph relative to the earth and its atmosphere, this is why blimps can fly east and west. if you do not understand this please refrain from commenting and please do not pass on your wisdom about the earth being flat or not rotating to anyone.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:20 Permalink

You show your own foolishness by your arrogance. If we evolved. Why is the DNA record have no evidence of this. Why don't fish and mammals and apes and man have the same DNA sequences etc. DNA proves no link. No record of mans DNA in other species. Hello. You now have another missing link. Just this one is beyond reasoning. No genetic timeline present. I can trace human beans to genetic ancestors no problem yet never, not a single gene from another species or mans in lower species. You are blind to what is in your own microscopes. You have sacrificed the quest for knowledge to be accepted among your labotamized colleagues. Every strand of DNA should have a piece which would show a direct timeline from lower to higher DNA. Yet no DNA record to back up a word of your so called educated nonsense you feed each other and say how great your are for dumbing up all of society with your pschobabel.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:27 Permalink

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0831_050831_chimp_genes.html

But my mighty internet mindreading powers predict you will have an answer to that. It won't be a good answer and it'll probably involve insulting me and anyone else who dares disagree with you, but you'll hit that submit button just the same.

I love the smell of troll. It's just like unwashed crotch.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 21 Aug 2009 - 09:52 Permalink

Meanwhile, they claim there is an intellectual elite out there out to get them. That's not the elite trying to conspire against you.. it's 82% (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_47/b3960108.htm) of the american population.
Submitted by Seadolphin1253 (not verified) on 11 Jun 2009 - 23:33 Permalink

These comments are by far the oddest and funniest that I have ever come across! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE! That was fun.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 24 Apr 2009 - 05:07 Permalink

This is Great Stuff. I think many of us would love to hear you go into depth to reasons why the earth is portrayed as spinning. Is it a giant conspiracy? Also: does the sun spin around the earth? how do night and day work? and the seasons? The apparent movement of stars? Does the entire universe spin around the earth? How does The Foucault Pendulum work? If the truth ever becomes manifestly obvious to the world what major outcomes do you predict? Mass conversion to Islam? the end of the pork industry? If you know the truth it is your duty to pursue it!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 16 Mar 2009 - 19:58 Permalink

REFUTATION THAT THE EARTH ROTATES By AHMED RAZA KHAN a muslim scholar (1856-1921) The earth moves constantly about its own axis and also round the sun, which is stationary. This theory espoused by Nicolaus Copernicus, Johannes Kepler and Galileo Galilei, gained popularity all over the world. The theory says that the speed of rotation of earth is 1036 miles per hour, i.e., 17.26 miles per minute i.e., 30,389 yards per minute, i.e., 506.4 yards per second. Against this theory, nobody could speak. It was A‘lahazrat who challenged it and declared:- "The Islamic principle is that the sky and earth are stationary and the planets rotate. It is sun that moves round the earth; it is not earth that moves round the sun." In order to substantiate it, A‘lahazrat put forward two-tier arguments. First, he quoted a number of verses from Holy Qur’an and Hadith, the translation of some of which is given below: 1. The movement of Sun and Moon is according to a course. 2. The sun and the moon are sailing within a circle. 3. The moon and the sun were besieged for you which are constantly moving. [For detailed study, please see "Nuzool-i-Ayat-i-Furqan Besukoon-i-Zameen-o-Aasman" of A‘lahazrat written in 1339 A.H, published from Riza Academy, Bombay.] In 1920, he presented his book "Fauz-i-Mubin Dar Radd-i-Harkat-i-Zamin", Published from Idara Sunni Dunia, Saudagran, Bareilly. This book contains 105 arguments, dozens of diagrams and lots of calculations in refuting the said theory. Out of 105, I am giving below gist of only five logical and axiomatic arguments which are quite easy and which can be understood by a man of average intelligence. 1. If a heavy stone is thrown up straight, it would fall on the same place from where it was thrown, whereas according to the theory of movement of earth, it must not happen. According to it, if the earth were moving towards east, the stone would fall in west because during the time it went up and came down, that place of earth from where the stone was thrown up, due to movement of earth, would slip away towards east. Suppose, the process of stone going up and coming down took a time of 5 seconds, then according to the said speed of movement of earth, that is, 506.4 yards per second, the earth would slip away towards east by 2532 yards i.e. about one and a half miles In other words, the stone must fall in the west of that place (place of throwing up the stone) at a distance of about one and a half miles but actually it would fall on the same place from where it was thrown up. It shows that the said theory of movement of Earth is wrong. 2. If two stones are thrown away at the same time and with the same power — one towards east and the other towards west, then what should happen according to the said theory of movement of earth, is that the stone going towards west must appear to be going very fast and that the stone going towards east very lazy. Suppose the power of throwing the stone is 19 yards within three seconds, then the respective stones would fall in the east and west at a distance of 19 yards only but according to the said theory, by the time the westward stone would cover a distance of 19 yards in three seconds, the place from where the stones were thrown, would slip away towards east by 1519 yards (506.4 x 3) In this way, it must fall at a distance of 1519+19 i.e. 1538 yards, whereas it would actually fall only at a distance of 19 yards. Similarly, the other stone going towards east must fall in the west at a distance of 1519-19 i.e. 1500 yards, whereas actually it would fall in the very east at a distance of 19 yards only. It shows that the said theory of Movement of Earth is wrong. 3. Suppose, from a tree, two birds fly with equal speed and for equal period, one of them goes towards east and the other towards west. Now if their flying speed is equal to the speed of movement of earth, that is, if they fly at a speed of 1036 miles per hour, then according to the said theory, bird going towards west must fly at a speed of 1036+1036 i.e. 2072 miles per hour (being its own speed added by the speed of movement of earth), while the bird going towards east would not be able to move even an inch as its speed after adjusting the speed of movement of earth (both being equal) would become zero. On the contrary, what would actually happen is that the bird going eastward would go in the east to a distance of 1036 miles during an hour and the bird going westward would go in the west at a distance of 1036 miles. It shows that the said theory of movement of Earth is wrong. For a bird, the abnormal speed of flight of 1036 miles per hour has been assumed only to bring it parallel to the speed of movement of earth and simply to prove that according to the said theory, the bird flying towards east would not be able to cover any distance even if it comes abreast of a plane in the matter of speed and flies at a rate of 1036 miles per hour. 4. If it is intended to kill a bird appearing at a distance of 10 yards in the air from a particular place and suppose it takes two seconds in stringing the bow and shooting the arrow, then by the time the arrow is shot, that particular place would slip away within these two seconds at a distance of 1013 yards at a speed of 506.4 yards per second being the speed of movement of earth and thus the arrow can never reach the target, whereas it may be taken for granted that the arrow would hit the target. It shows that the theory of movement of Earth is wrong. 5. If a bird is sitting on a pillar near its nest just at a distance of one yard, even then it can never reach the nest, because in order to reach the nest, the bird shall have to fly — may it be for a second or part thereof. The fact is that, the bird can never surpass the speed of 1036 miles per hour, which is said to be the speed of movement of earth. It shows that the theory of Movement of the Earth is wrong. Need you go yet for further arguments? Go on thinking over plane, gun, cannon, missile squad and so forth. Thus, it's easy to come to the conclusion that a person who challenged the great scientists like Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Newton etc, must have been a great scientist himself. What is required to disprove the theories of these scientists, A‘lahazrat has done ahead of it but sooner or later its credit will be bagged by someone else who will win the fight in the name of a scientist for, Ahmed Rida Khan is better known as a Muslim theologian rather than a scientist. The above mentioned cases have no standing in the science of physics. It is very obvious that the author and Mr. Ahmad Rida had no knowledge in the field of physics, and if they did, it was not adequate.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 16 Jul 2009 - 20:08 Permalink

1. You forgot to take in account the 1st Newton's laws of motion...(mostly inertia)
Last week I took a high speed train (150 mph) and I had to jump a couple of times while trying to get my get my backpack. So if this scholar was right my half a second jumps could have made me fly 38 yardas across the wagon! But I just jumped and landed more or less in the same place, having unstuck the backpack strap with a tug and got my magazine from it.
Submitted by Sol (not verified) on 04 Aug 2011 - 19:35 Permalink

I love Inertia :D it makes the world work literally and keeps us on the ground. <3 Without it we would all be dead flung into space like little bits of cosmic derby 'billions and billions' of years ago.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 24 Apr 2009 - 05:07 Permalink

This is Great Stuff. I think many of us would love to hear you go into depth to reasons why the earth is portrayed as spinning. Is it a giant conspiracy? Also: does the sun spin around the earth? how do night and day work? and the seasons? The apparent movement of stars? Does the entire universe spin around the earth? How does The Foucault Pendulum work? If the truth ever becomes manifestly obvious to the world what major outcomes do you predict? Mass conversion to Islam? the end of the pork industry? If you know the truth it is your duty to pursue it!